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My biggest fear with all these Smite changes and PvP is that it will be essential for any character who doesn't have to be Good / Evil to be Neutral.

Also, poor Alandriel is in shock, but she's a bitch and kind of deserved it. ^_^
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My biggest fear with all these Smite changes and PvP is that it will be essential for any character who doesn't have to be Good / Evil to be Neutral.
How about if both Smite Evil and Smite Good did half damage to Neutral alignments?
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I'm guessing quite a bit of this will require some releveling. Any insight into how this may work out?
I'm curious about this myself. Should we be pestering DMs about redoing our old characters? I can only imagine they would be inundated with requests as soon as they logged in.
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Some DM's will have no problem dropping you to level 1, and then back up. Most DM's (myself included) will hate doing full rebuilds.

No one will be releveling wizards, due to an Obsidian bug that doesn't need to be discussed here.
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Some DM's will have no problem dropping you to level 1, and then back up. Most DM's (myself included) will hate doing full rebuilds.

No one will be releveling wizards, due to an Obsidian bug that doesn't need to be discussed here.
Can I get my level reset to 3 and start levelling my wizard again? (Mystic theurge, level 16). I have not gained spells per level since level 5 (Mystic theurge bug and the level I took at 16 doesn't grant spellcasting) if that's the bug...

Honestly, I'd be willing to relevel completely from scratch with these changes, as it's five feats that would be different

edit: not relevent as i took the pre rqs at level one

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Really frustrating to log back in and have spells ripped from my FS's arsenal at random..
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No one will be releveling wizards, due to an Obsidian bug that doesn't need to be discussed here.
So if we want the new hps and skill points, we have to delete and restart our wizards?
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Really frustrating to log back in and have spells ripped from my FS's arsenal at random..
Now I'm scared to log in!

Also what is the purpose of nerfing the FS? They honestly got nothing to replace all of the benefits of being one. Is there some reason for this I am missing?
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Now I'm scared to log in!

Also what is the purpose of nerfing the FS? They honestly got nothing to replace all of the benefits of being one. Is there some reason for this I am missing?
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I like the Favored Soul changes, though I think their high saves should have been both fort and will, instead of just will.

Edit: Now that I look at it in more detail, FS was changed into an exclusively offensive caster from a buff-and-basher. Which might not be what a lot of people wanted out of their FS characters.
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