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Doubtful 06-29-2017 10:09 AM

Update news, 29/6/2017
Well, the most important bit of news we can give right now is this: We’re not dead.

Work is continuing on getting Sundren up and running again, we’ve changed plans on how we’ll deliver the time-jump server update.

We’ll no longer be waiting for everything to be done before wiping the existing vault and pushing all the changes in one huge chunk.

Instead the new plan is to push releases and updates as they’re ready. This will start with wiping the vault and updating the factions to represent the cities. Hopefully we’ll also be able to adjust the softcap and make some minor adjustments to a few maps.

When will we be able to play?
The server is currently playable but the looming wipe makes that a seemingly redundant option.
We’re currently working through the most critical changes to the faction/npc/encounter systems to ensure once the wipe happens things are playable. I’m aiming to have all of these changes completed for the weekend of the 8/9th July for the wipe and update to take place either on that weekend or the weekend after (Team availability depending).

When will further updates follow?
As and when they’re ready. The priority is to get the server into a place where people can play again. Cosmetic changes and zone updates will follow as and when they’re done.

What are your goals?
Short term the goal is simply to get the server into an playable state, free people from the existential dread of a character wipe and set the ground for people having fun creating great stories.

Longer term the factions will need fleshing out, cities made more distinctive and more quests and dungeons added. But for now the focus is on functionality.

Can I help?
In short, yes.

If you have skills that’ll be useful to the server then we can make use of you. There are many changes needed and the current team is small, so if you can script, map, model, write, draw or just have a great imagination then we’ll probably be able to put you to good use.

Can I wishlist?
Sure, go for it.
If you can implement what you’re wishlisting then so much the better.

Anything else?
If you’ve got questions then post them here, PM me or hop onto Discord where you’ll find there’s already a large group of players hanging about with the staff and up to date information. I’ll keep this thread updated as I hit any noteworthy goals.

Calculus 06-29-2017 11:19 AM

I fall under the programming and mathematics section of the help I reckon.

Doubtful 06-29-2017 11:25 AM

Let's chat on Discord Calculus.

Doubtful 07-11-2017 03:24 AM


The much requested vault wipe happened on Sunday, meaning you're now free to create and play characters without the threat of having them deleted.

No other update took place as we're still waiting on the completion of some items, unfortunately as I've been (and remain) very unwell this week I'm a bit out of the loop on where we are.

As the update hadn't replaced the factions IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO NOT JOIN ANY OF THE FACTIONS. Doing so may result in the deletion of your character, broken stuff on update or forcing a new wipe. Spread the word.

In order to help prepare the update I need to know where the NPCs that currently join you to factions are, I deleted a lot but may have missed some. Therefore if you encounter an NPC that gives you the option to join a faction (again, don't join one) then please let me know their location for removal.

Lotus 07-12-2017 10:23 AM

We're going to have to do another wipe to get rid of gear that shouldn't be, curb leveling pace, etc. You are free to retain the RP between your characters, but this is mechanically necessary.

Mournas 07-16-2017 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Lotus (Post 176640)
We're going to have to do another wipe to get rid of gear that shouldn't be, curb leveling pace, etc. You are free to retain the RP between your characters, but this is mechanically necessary.

Clarifying ... As in there will still be a future wipe to come?

thaelis 07-16-2017 07:17 PM

Yes, there is at least one more wipe to go.

Come and RP!

RP is persisting past the wipe, so as long as you don't mind being level 1 for a (probably long) while you can jump right in.

Doubtful 07-17-2017 02:40 AM

Level 3, rather than level 1.

We're not that cruel!

thaelis 07-17-2017 03:48 AM

Oops yes I meant level 3!

Orlitoq 07-18-2017 01:13 PM

I attempted to find the server for some Rp, but was unable to do so. Can someone help me make sure I have the correct information for a Direct Connection?

Incognito 07-18-2017 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Orlitoq (Post 176685)
I attempted to find the server for some Rp, but was unable to do so. Can someone help me make sure I have the correct information for a Direct Connection?


nezzerscape 08-05-2017 09:50 AM

There is another wipe coming?

Yevelian 08-05-2017 07:06 PM

I tried connecting, but was unable. Is the server up or semi up at

Doubtful 08-05-2017 07:13 PM


Always worth checking the nwnscry site for the latest IP.

Nezzer: in short, yes. Will try to do a longer answer as to why tomorrow.

OnyxTigress 08-07-2017 01:45 AM

I can give a short answer as to why and let Doubt elaborate. Currently the plan is for the server to have a cap of level 15. But the problem with things as they are now, encounters and loot are scaled for the old cap. So it would be wildly unbalanced if people were allowed to keep all of what they grind out now, so the plan is to do another wipe when things are ready to go.

nezzerscape 08-08-2017 08:50 PM

Starting cap? Or final cap like the 20 was (bonus XP for events, etc.).

Just trying to get a feel. They will effect some base classes (ones that blossom later) and make some prestige classes worthless (or less worth taking). All good if we know going in. It would stink if we were going for a weapons master only to find out we could only make it to level 4 or a level 7 Assassin.

All good, cannot wait to the dust settles and we all can start playing!


thaelis 08-08-2017 09:43 PM

Level 15 will be the soft cap, which means only DM-awarded or daily quest XP after 15.

If you can't solo the daily quest it's essentially a hard cap of 15, so I wouldn't plan anything beyond that.

nezzerscape 08-08-2017 10:10 PM

Ok, so just like it was before just but @ 15. Plan on level 15 and hope for more.

Thank you for the additional clarification... looks like I will have to rethink my Druid-Necro build!

Doubtful 08-11-2017 12:06 PM

Toot toot!

Time for an update.

About Time, you said tomorrow 5 days ago.

Yes, looking back over the last few weeks is a bit frustrating.

On the upside we did what we planned to do and wiped the vault freeing up RP to start anew.

On the downside the wipe wasn't enough and substantially more things needed changing and tweaking before the update could be run than I'd originally budgeted for. As Onyx finely explained the update needs to re-balance a lot of the servers mechanics/items to ensure that equipment and leveling pace is kept constant and enjoyable, while it's something that can certainly be tweaked going forward it does require a clean slate to start with meaning a second wipe will be required once the update takes place. Once that's done then hopefully we'll be free of the need for wipes.

When will then be now?


I hope. One problem with the over-run is that we ran face first into the hard, unyielding family holiday wall period of late July/August. This has meant a huge reduction in the available hourage to get things done. While work does continue it's not exactly racing along. Fear not, people are still at work on it.

What people?

Top people.

Well, that's me reassured. How about an estimated release date?

Well, it'd be nice to have things all ready to go by the end of August, but the continuation of the hot summer months of angry, bored children mean that is probably wishful thinking (or maybe not) which means September is the more likely.

Is there anything I can do to help?

Quests and conversations.

Having more of those two things is good for everyone, especially quests.

If I've got more questions or want to chat?

Then reply here, PM me or anyone else in the DEV team or come join Kasso's lovely Discord channel (Follow this here link) and chat to us there.

Doubtful 09-01-2017 12:19 PM

Ah, September. It’s not as blindingly hot as August but still has some of the summer vibe.

Also, it’s the month I manage to crawl some free time back into my life. With that hopeful thought, here’s an update.

Didn’t you say you’d be done by August?

As I said in the last post September was a more likely date than August, and that’s turned out to be the case. The last few weeks for me have meant almost 0 free hours to plug into Sundren, but that’s about to change.

When in September?

I’ve got two blocks this month where I believe I’ll be able to put reasonable hours into Sundren. The first is a few days toward the start of the month while I’m on training (if my training is like last year I’ll have a few hours each day to myself). The second is during the last two weeks of the month.

Ideally the first block will be enough time to get the outstanding items done, however I’m not certain it will. I don’t particularly want to give any firm deadline but I believe we’d all be happy with it being finished sooner rather than later.

Do you still want Quests and Conversations?


As ever, if you’ve got questions, pointers or just want to chat then reply here, PM me or hit us up on Discord.

Doubtful 09-17-2017 06:05 AM

Fortnightly Update!

OK, the first block of time in September turned out to be a lot less than I'd hoped, I manged to do a couple of stores but not all of the changes required.

From Monday onward though it's the second block of time I have this month and I remain confident that I'll have the last of known outstanding changes needed for the update complete and committed within September.

Doubtful 09-29-2017 05:25 PM

Alright! The last changes that I was aware of being needed have been commited, this means everything should be in position for the server to be wiped and the updated stuff made live.

Once this has happened I'll post the update notes and what's next.

jarlexel 09-30-2017 04:31 AM

Cool beans.

rustediron 10-02-2017 08:59 AM

It's happening!

gamestarmike 10-02-2017 05:17 PM

Is it live now?

rustediron 10-02-2017 05:22 PM

Sorry, that was supposed to be an indication of elation that the launch is now in sight, not an announcement that it had happened.

gamestarmike 10-02-2017 07:34 PM

Dang, I got super excited. rip

Seethinghatred 11-04-2017 03:44 PM

Hi I can't seem to download server to nwn2 files any suggestions?

Doubtful 11-05-2017 09:58 AM

still some problems with the update.

The SVN didn't take the update and the recent wipe/restore has resulted in the current issue where auto-download doesn't function.

I've no ETA on when it may be functioning, but will post when it is.

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